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God, this thing takes like 10+ minutes to start up. It hangs constantly. When doing anything it will hang for 5+ minutes before I can do anything again. When it stops hanging I can do maybe one or two things before it will just sit there and do NOTHING. Im talking about, opening up windows or programs. Like Control panel or solitare or even the start menu. No HDD work or processor work. The system clock even freezes up and gets way off. I dont understand. All my devices are working I get a rating of 3. I have a P4 2.8G with HT, 1Gig of DDR2, a XFX Geforce 6600 PCI-e, a Belkin Wireless G card PCI, 2 80Gig HDD's one is a SATA 7200 which has Win XP Pro and the other is a IDE. 5400 I beleive and that has Vista on it. I have tryed updating my graphics driver with the Nvidia one for Vista... No differance. I can connect to the internet but of course can not accomplish anything b/c it hangs constantly. I tryed reinstalling it and NO differance. All updates are installed from Windows Update, That took a half an hour to accomplish b/c it just sits there frozen in the middle of the progress. I have read many of you have Vista up and running smoothly. I dont get it. Why am I so different? I can only imagine it is some device in my system even though everything works. What could it be? Thanx guys. Kinda irritating cuz I cant find out what it is. Oh and I have a TSSTcorp CD-RW and a NEC DVD-RW those both work fine too.

Pimp,
I don't know why you're having such problems. I know this doesn't help you, but I have a 3.2 GHz 64 bit Athlon, 1 GB of memory, and two SATA drives one and a bunch of external drives and peripheral devices. I haven't had a problem. I had been to have reinstalled windows XP about a week before I installed Vista. So I had a clean install with about 15 programs. I use the upgrade install rather than the clean install. I find Vista uses about the same amount of resources and is just about as responsive as Windows XP. You seem to have a lot of bleeding edge devices that could be the problem. I hope he gets some actual advice rather than commiseration.
-Gene "PimpTwzt" wrote in message

God, this thing takes like 10+ minutes to start up. It hangs constantly. When doing anything it will hang for 5+ minutes before I can do anything again. When it stops hanging I can do maybe one or two things before it will just sit there and do NOTHING. Im talking about, opening up windows or programs. Like Control panel or solitare or even the start menu. No HDD work or processor work. The system clock even freezes up and gets way off. I dont understand. All my devices are working I get a rating of 3. I have a P4 2.8G with HT, 1Gig of DDR2, a XFX Geforce 6600 PCI-e, a Belkin Wireless G card PCI, 2 80Gig HDD's one is a SATA 7200 which has Win XP Pro and the other is a IDE. 5400 I beleive and that has Vista on it. I have tryed updating my graphics driver with the Nvidia one for Vista... No differance. I can connect to the internet but of course can not accomplish anything b/c it hangs constantly. I tryed reinstalling it and NO differance. All updates are installed from Windows Update, That took a half an hour to accomplish b/c it just sits there frozen in the middle of the progress. I have read many of you have Vista up and running smoothly. I dont get it. Why am I so different? I can only imagine it is some device in my system even though everything works. What could it be? Thanx guys. Kinda irritating cuz I cant find out what it is. Oh and I have a TSSTcorp CD-RW and a NEC DVD-RW those both work fine too.

Ya me too. I just stayed up all night trying yet another fresh install. I have disabled everything on my motherboard in the BIOS and installed the Nvidia vista drivers. It DOES run faster and I am able to do more with it but it still hangs for 5+ minutes when I perform to many actions in a row. The only other devices I can remove are my cd drives so I think I will just unplug the cable from the mobo if nothing there then I will remove the wireless card, if still no differance then the graphics card and use the one on the mobo. THose are the ONLY other things I can take off. I even dissabled USB. Sheesh. Well thanx for the reply and keep em coming guys. Hopefully the vista team reads some of this.
"Gene G" wrote:

Pimp,
I don't know why you're having such problems. I know this doesn't help you, but I have a 3.2 GHz 64 bit Athlon, 1 GB of memory, and two SATA drives one and a bunch of external drives and peripheral devices. I haven't had a problem. I had been to have reinstalled windows XP about a week before I installed Vista. So I had a clean install with about 15 programs. I use the upgrade install rather than the clean install. I find Vista uses about the same amount of resources and is just about as responsive as Windows XP. You seem to have a lot of bleeding edge devices that could be the problem. I hope he gets some actual advice rather than commiseration.
-Gene "PimpTwzt" wrote in message God, this thing takes like 10+ minutes to start up. It hangs constantly. When doing anything it will hang for 5+ minutes before I can do anything again. When it stops hanging I can do maybe one or two things before it will just sit there and do NOTHING. Im talking about, opening up windows or programs. Like Control panel or solitare or even the start menu. No HDD work or processor work. The system clock even freezes up and gets way off. I dont understand. All my devices are working I get a rating of 3. I have a P4 2.8G with HT, 1Gig of DDR2, a XFX Geforce 6600 PCI-e, a Belkin Wireless G card PCI, 2 80Gig HDD's one is a SATA 7200 which has Win XP Pro and the other is a IDE. 5400 I beleive and that has Vista on it. I have tryed updating my graphics driver with the Nvidia one for Vista... No differance. I can connect to the internet but of course can not accomplish anything b/c it hangs constantly. I tryed reinstalling it and NO differance. All updates are installed from Windows Update, That took a half an hour to accomplish b/c it just sits there frozen in the middle of the progress. I have read many of you have Vista up and running smoothly. I dont get it. Why am I so different? I can only imagine it is some device in my system even though everything works. What could it be? Thanx guys. Kinda irritating cuz I cant find out what it is. Oh and I have a TSSTcorp CD-RW and a NEC DVD-RW those both work fine too.

Have you tried looking for VISTAcompatible drivers on your manufacturers homepages? Driver for Sound, Lan, Screen?? Do you have an antivirus-program installed? Try looking for updated, also BETA-versions for your hardware. Havent had any hardware-related problems here. Even still have XPpro on one hd and Vista on another, and the only prob i got is to log onto my Internetbanking, and so i still use both OSs. The vista is just to feed my curiousity :-) If the final vista performs well, i think ill end up buying the Premium-version, but that doesnt have anything to do with your prob.... :-) Well...good luck
"PimpTwzt" wrote:

Ya me too. I just stayed up all night trying yet another fresh install. I have disabled everything on my motherboard in the BIOS and installed the Nvidia vista drivers. It DOES run faster and I am able to do more with it but it still hangs for 5+ minutes when I perform to many actions in a row. The only other devices I can remove are my cd drives so I think I will just unplug the cable from the mobo if nothing there then I will remove the wireless card, if still no differance then the graphics card and use the one on the mobo. THose are the ONLY other things I can take off. I even dissabled USB. Sheesh. Well thanx for the reply and keep em coming guys. Hopefully the vista team reads some of this.
"Gene G" wrote:
Pimp,
I don't know why you're having such problems. I know this doesn't help you, but I have a 3.2 GHz 64 bit Athlon, 1 GB of memory, and two SATA drives one and a bunch of external drives and peripheral devices. I haven't had a problem. I had been to have reinstalled windows XP about a week before I installed Vista. So I had a clean install with about 15 programs. I use the upgrade install rather than the clean install. I find Vista uses about the same amount of resources and is just about as responsive as Windows XP. You seem to have a lot of bleeding edge devices that could be the problem. I hope he gets some actual advice rather than commiseration.
-Gene "PimpTwzt" wrote in message God, this thing takes like 10+ minutes to start up. It hangs constantly. When doing anything it will hang for 5+ minutes before I can do anything again. When it stops hanging I can do maybe one or two things before it will just sit there and do NOTHING. Im talking about, opening up windows or programs. Like Control panel or solitare or even the start menu. No HDD work or processor work. The system clock even freezes up and gets way off. I dont understand. All my devices are working I get a rating of 3. I have a P4 2.8G with HT, 1Gig of DDR2, a XFX Geforce 6600 PCI-e, a Belkin Wireless G card PCI, 2 80Gig HDD's one is a SATA 7200 which has Win XP Pro and the other is a IDE. 5400 I beleive and that has Vista on it. I have tryed updating my graphics driver with the Nvidia one for Vista... No differance. I can connect to the internet but of course can not accomplish anything b/c it hangs constantly. I tryed reinstalling it and NO differance. All updates are installed from Windows Update, That took a half an hour to accomplish b/c it just sits there frozen in the middle of the progress. I have read many of you have Vista up and running smoothly. I dont get it. Why am I so different? I can only imagine it is some device in my system even though everything works. What could it be? Thanx guys. Kinda irritating cuz I cant find out what it is. Oh and I have a TSSTcorp CD-RW and a NEC DVD-RW those both work fine too.

2 similar things on my system... I had an intel 875p chipset mobo and its drivers didnt work quite right... but they did work. I also had CA antivirus installed. This combo caused system hangs, slowdowns etc. Removing CA helped but in the end switching to my other mobo, nforce3, helped the most.
"PimpTwzt" wrote:

God, this thing takes like 10+ minutes to start up. It hangs constantly. When doing anything it will hang for 5+ minutes before I can do anything again. When it stops hanging I can do maybe one or two things before it will just sit there and do NOTHING. Im talking about, opening up windows or programs. Like Control panel or solitare or even the start menu. No HDD work or processor work. The system clock even freezes up and gets way off. I dont understand. All my devices are working I get a rating of 3. I have a P4 2.8G with HT, 1Gig of DDR2, a XFX Geforce 6600 PCI-e, a Belkin Wireless G card PCI, 2 80Gig HDD's one is a SATA 7200 which has Win XP Pro and the other is a IDE. 5400 I beleive and that has Vista on it. I have tryed updating my graphics driver with the Nvidia one for Vista... No differance. I can connect to the internet but of course can not accomplish anything b/c it hangs constantly. I tryed reinstalling it and NO differance. All updates are installed from Windows Update, That took a half an hour to accomplish b/c it just sits there frozen in the middle of the progress. I have read many of you have Vista up and running smoothly. I dont get it. Why am I so different? I can only imagine it is some device in my system even though everything works. What could it be? Thanx guys. Kinda irritating cuz I cant find out what it is. Oh and I have a TSSTcorp CD-RW and a NEC DVD-RW those both work fine too.

I'm running an Intel 3.2Ghz dual processor system with 4GB RAM and two video cards in SLI. Still not sure if the Nvidia drivers are giving me SLI, but I am experiencing some of the usual hangups and glitches with Vista, and the system rating only gives me a "4". LOL. Other than that, my only complaints are that Readboost crashes my system, WMP 11 wont load my digital media files, and Vista wont recognize two of my SATA disk drives, which is okay now because nothing is on them.
"Jason" wrote:

2 similar things on my system... I had an intel 875p chipset mobo and its drivers didnt work quite right... but they did work. I also had CA antivirus installed. This combo caused system hangs, slowdowns etc. Removing CA helped but in the end switching to my other mobo, nforce3, helped the most.
"PimpTwzt" wrote:
God, this thing takes like 10+ minutes to start up. It hangs constantly. When doing anything it will hang for 5+ minutes before I can do anything again. When it stops hanging I can do maybe one or two things before it will just sit there and do NOTHING. Im talking about, opening up windows or programs. Like Control panel or solitare or even the start menu. No HDD work or processor work. The system clock even freezes up and gets way off. I dont understand. All my devices are working I get a rating of 3. I have a P4 2.8G with HT, 1Gig of DDR2, a XFX Geforce 6600 PCI-e, a Belkin Wireless G card PCI, 2 80Gig HDD's one is a SATA 7200 which has Win XP Pro and the other is a IDE. 5400 I beleive and that has Vista on it. I have tryed updating my graphics driver with the Nvidia one for Vista... No differance. I can connect to the internet but of course can not accomplish anything b/c it hangs constantly. I tryed reinstalling it and NO differance. All updates are installed from Windows Update, That took a half an hour to accomplish b/c it just sits there frozen in the middle of the progress. I have read many of you have Vista up and running smoothly. I dont get it. Why am I so different? I can only imagine it is some device in my system even though everything works. What could it be? Thanx guys. Kinda irritating cuz I cant find out what it is. Oh and I have a TSSTcorp CD-RW and a NEC DVD-RW those both work fine too.

I also get hangups alot...I run P4 2.1Ghz with 712MB Ram and have 512MB ATI Radeon 9200X with all of the Vista drivers from the manufacturers website...as for control panel it won`t even open anymore neither will Windows Update. It looks cooler, has better features but as for performance XP is still better. And if any one can help me with my Control Panel problem that would be sweet.lol
"Whoowhee" wrote:

I'm running an Intel 3.2Ghz dual processor system with 4GB RAM and two video cards in SLI. Still not sure if the Nvidia drivers are giving me SLI, but I am experiencing some of the usual hangups and glitches with Vista, and the system rating only gives me a "4". LOL. Other than that, my only complaints are that Readboost crashes my system, WMP 11 wont load my digital media files, and Vista wont recognize two of my SATA disk drives, which is okay now because nothing is on them.
"Jason" wrote:
2 similar things on my system... I had an intel 875p chipset mobo and its drivers didnt work quite right... but they did work. I also had CA antivirus installed. This combo caused system hangs, slowdowns etc. Removing CA helped but in the end switching to my other mobo, nforce3, helped the most.
"PimpTwzt" wrote:
God, this thing takes like 10+ minutes to start up. It hangs constantly. When doing anything it will hang for 5+ minutes before I can do anything again. When it stops hanging I can do maybe one or two things before it will just sit there and do NOTHING. Im talking about, opening up windows or programs. Like Control panel or solitare or even the start menu. No HDD work or processor work. The system clock even freezes up and gets way off. I dont understand. All my devices are working I get a rating of 3. I have a P4 2.8G with HT, 1Gig of DDR2, a XFX Geforce 6600 PCI-e, a Belkin Wireless G card PCI, 2 80Gig HDD's one is a SATA 7200 which has Win XP Pro and the other is a IDE. 5400 I beleive and that has Vista on it. I have tryed updating my graphics driver with the Nvidia one for Vista... No differance. I can connect to the internet but of course can not accomplish anything b/c it hangs constantly. I tryed reinstalling it and NO differance. All updates are installed from Windows Update, That took a half an hour to accomplish b/c it just sits there frozen in the middle of the progress. I have read many of you have Vista up and running smoothly. I dont get it. Why am I so different? I can only imagine it is some device in my system even though everything works. What could it be? Thanx guys. Kinda irritating cuz I cant find out what it is. Oh and I have a TSSTcorp CD-RW and a NEC DVD-RW those both work fine too.

I also get hangups alot...I run P4 2.1Ghz with 712MB Ram and have 512MB ATI Radeon 9200X with all of the Vista drivers from the manufacturers website...as for control panel it won`t even open anymore neither will Windows Update. It looks cooler, has better features but as for performance XP is still better. And if any one can help me with my Control Panel problem that would be sweet.lol
"Whoowhee" wrote:

I'm running an Intel 3.2Ghz dual processor system with 4GB RAM and two video cards in SLI. Still not sure if the Nvidia drivers are giving me SLI, but I am experiencing some of the usual hangups and glitches with Vista, and the system rating only gives me a "4". LOL. Other than that, my only complaints are that Readboost crashes my system, WMP 11 wont load my digital media files, and Vista wont recognize two of my SATA disk drives, which is okay now because nothing is on them.
"Jason" wrote:
2 similar things on my system... I had an intel 875p chipset mobo and its drivers didnt work quite right... but they did work. I also had CA antivirus installed. This combo caused system hangs, slowdowns etc. Removing CA helped but in the end switching to my other mobo, nforce3, helped the most.
"PimpTwzt" wrote:
God, this thing takes like 10+ minutes to start up. It hangs constantly. When doing anything it will hang for 5+ minutes before I can do anything again. When it stops hanging I can do maybe one or two things before it will just sit there and do NOTHING. Im talking about, opening up windows or programs. Like Control panel or solitare or even the start menu. No HDD work or processor work. The system clock even freezes up and gets way off. I dont understand. All my devices are working I get a rating of 3. I have a P4 2.8G with HT, 1Gig of DDR2, a XFX Geforce 6600 PCI-e, a Belkin Wireless G card PCI, 2 80Gig HDD's one is a SATA 7200 which has Win XP Pro and the other is a IDE. 5400 I beleive and that has Vista on it. I have tryed updating my graphics driver with the Nvidia one for Vista... No differance. I can connect to the internet but of course can not accomplish anything b/c it hangs constantly. I tryed reinstalling it and NO differance. All updates are installed from Windows Update, That took a half an hour to accomplish b/c it just sits there frozen in the middle of the progress. I have read many of you have Vista up and running smoothly. I dont get it. Why am I so different? I can only imagine it is some device in my system even though everything works. What could it be? Thanx guys. Kinda irritating cuz I cant find out what it is. Oh and I have a TSSTcorp CD-RW and a NEC DVD-RW those both work fine too.

Well I disabled everything and took out all my hardware except for the mobo and processor. Just running on board graphics and the boot time went from 10 minutes to 44 seconds. The video card was causing the hang up on boot and it sped up the whole experiance a bit but STILL hangs quiet often. Dunno why. maybe the Nvidia drivers were still loading even though the device was removed. I didnt uninstall the drivers. Im gonna try that. *Crossing fingers* Thanx for the input guys. P.S. Yes I have tryed all manufactures web sites for vista drivers.
"bman2409" wrote:

I also get hangups alot...I run P4 2.1Ghz with 712MB Ram and have 512MB ATI Radeon 9200X with all of the Vista drivers from the manufacturers website...as for control panel it won`t even open anymore neither will Windows Update. It looks cooler, has better features but as for performance XP is still better. And if any one can help me with my Control Panel problem that would be sweet.lol
"Whoowhee" wrote:
I'm running an Intel 3.2Ghz dual processor system with 4GB RAM and two video cards in SLI. Still not sure if the Nvidia drivers are giving me SLI, but I am experiencing some of the usual hangups and glitches with Vista, and the system rating only gives me a "4". LOL. Other than that, my only complaints are that Readboost crashes my system, WMP 11 wont load my digital media files, and Vista wont recognize two of my SATA disk drives, which is okay now because nothing is on them.
"Jason" wrote:
2 similar things on my system... I had an intel 875p chipset mobo and its drivers didnt work quite right... but they did work. I also had CA antivirus installed. This combo caused system hangs, slowdowns etc. Removing CA helped but in the end switching to my other mobo, nforce3, helped the most.
"PimpTwzt" wrote:
God, this thing takes like 10+ minutes to start up. It hangs constantly. When doing anything it will hang for 5+ minutes before I can do anything again. When it stops hanging I can do maybe one or two things before it will just sit there and do NOTHING. Im talking about, opening up windows or programs. Like Control panel or solitare or even the start menu. No HDD work or processor work. The system clock even freezes up and gets way off. I dont understand. All my devices are working I get a rating of 3. I have a P4 2.8G with HT, 1Gig of DDR2, a XFX Geforce 6600 PCI-e, a Belkin Wireless G card PCI, 2 80Gig HDD's one is a SATA 7200 which has Win XP Pro and the other is a IDE. 5400 I beleive and that has Vista on it. I have tryed updating my graphics driver with the Nvidia one for Vista... No differance. I can connect to the internet but of course can not accomplish anything b/c it hangs constantly. I tryed reinstalling it and NO differance. All updates are installed from Windows Update, That took a half an hour to accomplish b/c it just sits there frozen in the middle of the progress. I have read many of you have Vista up and running smoothly. I dont get it. Why am I so different? I can only imagine it is some device in my system even though everything works. What could it be? Thanx guys. Kinda irritating cuz I cant find out what it is. Oh and I have a TSSTcorp CD-RW and a NEC DVD-RW those both work fine too.

Hmmm, I'm on a 2.8Ghz box right now with only 512meg ram, a FX5900 Ultra card, with clean install of Vista 32 on a 36gig raptor., and I'm suprised just how smooth everything is running. there is only 1 device that Vista didn't install a driver for and is marked 'Unknown' I have no idea myself, but everthing is working much better than I expected on a system with only 512meg ram.
No hang-ups at all here.

"PimpTwzt" wrote in message

Well I disabled everything and took out all my hardware except for the mobo and processor. Just running on board graphics and the boot time went from 10 minutes to 44 seconds. The video card was causing the hang up on boot and it sped up the whole experiance a bit but STILL hangs quiet often. Dunno why. maybe the Nvidia drivers were still loading even though the device was removed. I didnt uninstall the drivers. Im gonna try that. *Crossing fingers* Thanx for the input guys. P.S. Yes I have tryed all manufactures web sites for vista drivers.
"bman2409" wrote:
I also get hangups alot...I run P4 2.1Ghz with 712MB Ram and have 512MB ATI Radeon 9200X with all of the Vista drivers from the manufacturers website...as for control panel it won`t even open anymore neither will Windows Update. It looks cooler, has better features but as for performance XP is still better. And if any one can help me with my Control Panel problem that would be sweet.lol
"Whoowhee" wrote:
I'm running an Intel 3.2Ghz dual processor system with 4GB RAM and two video cards in SLI. Still not sure if the Nvidia drivers are giving me SLI, but I am experiencing some of the usual hangups and glitches with Vista, and the system rating only gives me a "4". LOL. Other than that, my only complaints are that Readboost crashes my system, WMP 11 wont load my digital media files, and Vista wont recognize two of my SATA disk drives, which is okay now because nothing is on them.
"Jason" wrote:
2 similar things on my system... I had an intel 875p chipset mobo and its drivers didnt work quite right... but they did work. I also had CA antivirus installed. This combo caused system hangs, slowdowns etc. Removing CA helped but in the end switching to my other mobo, nforce3, helped the most.
"PimpTwzt" wrote:
God, this thing takes like 10+ minutes to start up. It hangs constantly. When doing anything it will hang for 5+ minutes before I can do anything again. When it stops hanging I can do maybe one or two things before it will just sit there and do NOTHING. Im talking about, opening up windows or programs. Like Control panel or solitare or even the start menu. No HDD work or processor work. The system clock even freezes up and gets way off. I dont understand. All my devices are working I get a rating of 3. I have a P4 2.8G with HT, 1Gig of DDR2, a XFX Geforce 6600 PCI-e, a Belkin Wireless G card PCI, 2 80Gig HDD's one is a SATA 7200 which has Win XP Pro and the other is a IDE. 5400 I beleive and that has Vista on it. I have tryed updating my graphics driver with the Nvidia one for Vista... No differance. I can connect to the internet but of course can not accomplish anything b/c it hangs constantly. I tryed reinstalling it and NO differance. All updates are installed from Windows Update, That took a half an hour to accomplish b/c it just sits there frozen in the middle of the progress. I have read many of you have Vista up and running smoothly. I dont get it. Why am I so different? I can only imagine it is some device in my system even though everything works. What could it be? Thanx guys. Kinda irritating cuz I cant find out what it is. Oh and I have a TSSTcorp CD-RW and a NEC DVD-RW those both work fine too.

I am using an HP laptop that only has a 64meg video, so the performance rating here is a "1". I am experiencing no slow operation except when the Trend Micro antivirus is installed. Then the machine runs so slow that is takes 20 seconds for the "Start" menu to come up when the start button is clicked. The problem is the antivirus on this machine. The only way I could recover was touse a restore point before the AV was installed. -- If you can read this, thank a teacher. Since you are reading it in English, thank a Soldier.
"PimpTwzt" wrote:

God, this thing takes like 10+ minutes to start up. It hangs constantly. When doing anything it will hang for 5+ minutes before I can do anything again. When it stops hanging I can do maybe one or two things before it will just sit there and do NOTHING. Im talking about, opening up windows or programs. Like Control panel or solitare or even the start menu. No HDD work or processor work. The system clock even freezes up and gets way off. I dont understand. All my devices are working I get a rating of 3. I have a P4 2.8G with HT, 1Gig of DDR2, a XFX Geforce 6600 PCI-e, a Belkin Wireless G card PCI, 2 80Gig HDD's one is a SATA 7200 which has Win XP Pro and the other is a IDE. 5400 I beleive and that has Vista on it. I have tryed updating my graphics driver with the Nvidia one for Vista... No differance. I can connect to the internet but of course can not accomplish anything b/c it hangs constantly. I tryed reinstalling it and NO differance. All updates are installed from Windows Update, That took a half an hour to accomplish b/c it just sits there frozen in the middle of the progress. I have read many of you have Vista up and running smoothly. I dont get it. Why am I so different? I can only imagine it is some device in my system even though everything works. What could it be? Thanx guys. Kinda irritating cuz I cant find out what it is. Oh and I have a TSSTcorp CD-RW and a NEC DVD-RW those both work fine too.

Man I replaced all my mobo drivers including IDE and SATA drivers. NOTHING. It still creeps along. This is not fare... lol I cant figure out what is going on with this thing. Wish I had another build so I could try that one out and see if its just this build that conflicts with my set-up. Thing runs great in safe mode even with networking enabled. shoot I noticed today when I started up in vista it hung for over 30 minutes before it "woke up"
"John S." wrote:

I am using an HP laptop that only has a 64meg video, so the performance rating here is a "1". I am experiencing no slow operation except when the Trend Micro antivirus is installed. Then the machine runs so slow that is takes 20 seconds for the "Start" menu to come up when the start button is clicked. The problem is the antivirus on this machine. The only way I could recover was touse a restore point before the AV was installed. -- If you can read this, thank a teacher. Since you are reading it in English, thank a Soldier.
"PimpTwzt" wrote:
God, this thing takes like 10+ minutes to start up. It hangs constantly. When doing anything it will hang for 5+ minutes before I can do anything again. When it stops hanging I can do maybe one or two things before it will just sit there and do NOTHING. Im talking about, opening up windows or programs. Like Control panel or solitare or even the start menu. No HDD work or processor work. The system clock even freezes up and gets way off. I dont understand. All my devices are working I get a rating of 3. I have a P4 2.8G with HT, 1Gig of DDR2, a XFX Geforce 6600 PCI-e, a Belkin Wireless G card PCI, 2 80Gig HDD's one is a SATA 7200 which has Win XP Pro and the other is a IDE. 5400 I beleive and that has Vista on it. I have tryed updating my graphics driver with the Nvidia one for Vista... No differance. I can connect to the internet but of course can not accomplish anything b/c it hangs constantly. I tryed reinstalling it and NO differance. All updates are installed from Windows Update, That took a half an hour to accomplish b/c it just sits there frozen in the middle of the progress. I have read many of you have Vista up and running smoothly. I dont get it. Why am I so different? I can only imagine it is some device in my system even though everything works. What could it be? Thanx guys. Kinda irritating cuz I cant find out what it is. Oh and I have a TSSTcorp CD-RW and a NEC DVD-RW those both work fine too.

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"PimpTwzt" wrote in message

Man I replaced all my mobo drivers including IDE and SATA drivers. NOTHING. It still creeps along. This is not fare... lol I cant figure out what is going on with this thing. Wish I had another build so I could try that one out and see if its just this build that conflicts with my set-up. Thing runs great in safe mode even with networking enabled. shoot I noticed today when I started up in vista it hung for over 30 minutes before it "woke up"
"John S." wrote:
I am using an HP laptop that only has a 64meg video, so the performance rating here is a "1". I am experiencing no slow operation except when the Trend Micro antivirus is installed. Then the machine runs so slow that is takes 20 seconds for the "Start" menu to come up when the start button is clicked. The problem is the antivirus on this machine. The only way I could recover was touse a restore point before the AV was installed. -- If you can read this, thank a teacher. Since you are reading it in English, thank a Soldier.
"PimpTwzt" wrote:
God, this thing takes like 10+ minutes to start up. It hangs constantly. When doing anything it will hang for 5+ minutes before I can do anything again. When it stops hanging I can do maybe one or two things before it will just sit there and do NOTHING. Im talking about, opening up windows or programs. Like Control panel or solitare or even the start menu. No HDD work or processor work. The system clock even freezes up and gets way off. I dont understand. All my devices are working I get a rating of 3. I have a P4 2.8G with HT, 1Gig of DDR2, a XFX Geforce 6600 PCI-e, a Belkin Wireless G card PCI, 2 80Gig HDD's one is a SATA 7200 which has Win XP Pro and the other is a IDE. 5400 I beleive and that has Vista on it. I have tryed updating my graphics driver with the Nvidia one for Vista... No differance. I can connect to the internet but of course can not accomplish anything b/c it hangs constantly. I tryed reinstalling it and NO differance. All updates are installed from Windows Update, That took a half an hour to accomplish b/c it just sits there frozen in the middle of the progress. I have read many of you have Vista up and running smoothly. I dont get it. Why am I so different? I can only imagine it is some device in my system even though everything works. What could it be? Thanx guys. Kinda irritating cuz I cant find out what it is. Oh and I have a TSSTcorp CD-RW and a NEC DVD-RW those both work fine too.

try disabling your graphics adapter and see what happens, cause im going thru the same problem (vista taking forever to start and running slow on doing anything) couldnt figure out what it was but i disabled my ATI Radeon card and Vista ran perfectly, give it a try and see what yours does.
"PimpTwzt" wrote:

God, this thing takes like 10+ minutes to start up. It hangs constantly. When doing anything it will hang for 5+ minutes before I can do anything again. When it stops hanging I can do maybe one or two things before it will just sit there and do NOTHING. Im talking about, opening up windows or programs. Like Control panel or solitare or even the start menu. No HDD work or processor work. The system clock even freezes up and gets way off. I dont understand. All my devices are working I get a rating of 3. I have a P4 2.8G with HT, 1Gig of DDR2, a XFX Geforce 6600 PCI-e, a Belkin Wireless G card PCI, 2 80Gig HDD's one is a SATA 7200 which has Win XP Pro and the other is a IDE. 5400 I beleive and that has Vista on it. I have tryed updating my graphics driver with the Nvidia one for Vista... No differance. I can connect to the internet but of course can not accomplish anything b/c it hangs constantly. I tryed reinstalling it and NO differance. All updates are installed from Windows Update, That took a half an hour to accomplish b/c it just sits there frozen in the middle of the progress. I have read many of you have Vista up and running smoothly. I dont get it. Why am I so different? I can only imagine it is some device in my system even though everything works. What could it be? Thanx guys. Kinda irritating cuz I cant find out what it is. Oh and I have a TSSTcorp CD-RW and a NEC DVD-RW those both work fine too.

Yes i had to remove the card and it boots up a hell of a lot faster. BUT it still hangs up whenever I open a program or apply a setting. Apparently there is still a problem with a device somewhere if others have it up and running without fault.
I have two Drives, One has XP and the other has Vista. In fact when I run Vista I have the other drive unplugged. Hopefully they come up with a fix for all this asap, cuz I cant do anyting with it right now. It takes away from my normal use of XP so ya im going to just wait for now i guess until they get useful updates or drivers.
"Sean M" wrote:

try disabling your graphics adapter and see what happens, cause im going thru the same problem (vista taking forever to start and running slow on doing anything) couldnt figure out what it was but i disabled my ATI Radeon card and Vista ran perfectly, give it a try and see what yours does.
"PimpTwzt" wrote:
God, this thing takes like 10+ minutes to start up. It hangs constantly. When doing anything it will hang for 5+ minutes before I can do anything again. When it stops hanging I can do maybe one or two things before it will just sit there and do NOTHING. Im talking about, opening up windows or programs. Like Control panel or solitare or even the start menu. No HDD work or processor work. The system clock even freezes up and gets way off. I dont understand. All my devices are working I get a rating of 3. I have a P4 2.8G with HT, 1Gig of DDR2, a XFX Geforce 6600 PCI-e, a Belkin Wireless G card PCI, 2 80Gig HDD's one is a SATA 7200 which has Win XP Pro and the other is a IDE. 5400 I beleive and that has Vista on it. I have tryed updating my graphics driver with the Nvidia one for Vista... No differance. I can connect to the internet but of course can not accomplish anything b/c it hangs constantly. I tryed reinstalling it and NO differance. All updates are installed from Windows Update, That took a half an hour to accomplish b/c it just sits there frozen in the middle of the progress. I have read many of you have Vista up and running smoothly. I dont get it. Why am I so different? I can only imagine it is some device in my system even though everything works. What could it be? Thanx guys. Kinda irritating cuz I cant find out what it is. Oh and I have a TSSTcorp CD-RW and a NEC DVD-RW those both work fine too.

"PimpTwzt" wrote:

God, this thing takes like 10+ minutes to start up. understand. All my devices are working I get a rating of 3.

I have a PC with Overall rating of 1 and Windows Vista beta2 takes less of 30 seconds to start up.

"PimpTwzt" wrote:

Man I replaced all my mobo drivers including IDE and SATA drivers. NOTHING. It still creeps along. This is not fare... lol I cant figure out what is going on with this thing. Wish I had another build so I could try that one out and see if its just this build that conflicts with my set-up. Thing runs great in safe mode even with networking enabled. shoot I noticed today when I started up in vista it hung for over 30 minutes before it "woke up"
"John S." wrote:
I am using an HP laptop that only has a 64meg video, so the performance rating here is a "1". I am experiencing no slow operation except when the Trend Micro antivirus is installed. Then the machine runs so slow that is takes 20 seconds for the "Start" menu to come up when the start button is clicked. The problem is the antivirus on this machine. The only way I could recover was touse a restore point before the AV was installed. -- If you can read this, thank a teacher. Since you are reading it in English, thank a Soldier.
"PimpTwzt" wrote:
God, this thing takes like 10+ minutes to start up. It hangs constantly. When doing anything it will hang for 5+ minutes before I can do anything again. When it stops hanging I can do maybe one or two things before it will just sit there and do NOTHING. Im talking about, opening up windows or programs. Like Control panel or solitare or even the start menu. No HDD work or processor work. The system clock even freezes up and gets way off. I dont understand. All my devices are working I get a rating of 3. I have a P4 2.8G with HT, 1Gig of DDR2, a XFX Geforce 6600 PCI-e, a Belkin Wireless G card PCI, 2 80Gig HDD's one is a SATA 7200 which has Win XP Pro and the other is a IDE. 5400 I beleive and that has Vista on it. I have tryed updating my graphics driver with the Nvidia one for Vista... No differance. I can connect to the internet but of course can not accomplish anything b/c it hangs constantly. I tryed reinstalling it and NO differance. All updates are installed from Windows Update, That took a half an hour to accomplish b/c it just sits there frozen in the middle of the progress. I have read many of you have Vista up and running smoothly. I dont get it. Why am I so different? I can only imagine it is some device in my system even though everything works. What could it be? Thanx guys. Kinda irritating cuz I cant find out what it is. Oh and I have a TSSTcorp CD-RW and a NEC DVD-RW those both work fine too.

Here is the good news: you have answered your own question. The problem is a driver, or more than one, somewhere. The biggest difference between Safe mode and a normal boot is that Safe mode only loads the drivers it absolutely needs to run at a bare minimum. When you stated, "Thing runs great in safe mode even with networking enabled," it indicates that all is well with Vista, but that a driver in your system is not ready for prime time.
Here is the bad news: fixing this is going to be a bit of a pain. Yank every card, except video, out of the machine that is not integrated and disable any integrated devices other than your network adapter since that seems to be working in Safe mode anyway. Do a clean install of Vista. Without the cards plugged in it won't detect them and won't load the drivers. See if there are any performance issues. If there are problems at this point it is most likely the video driver. If things are running well then start re-enabling on board devices one by one until you have the performance problems again. If that goes well then you need to repeat the process with your PCI cards.
Keep in mind that Microsoft does not actually make the drivers. This includes the ones that install automatically when you install an operating system. The companies that make the hardware devices supply the drivers for inclusion by Microsoft. Since this is a Beta you should report your findings through the desktop Feedback so that appropriate action can be taken.
Good luck and please let us know how it works out.
"PimpTwzt" wrote:

Man I replaced all my mobo drivers including IDE and SATA drivers. NOTHING. It still creeps along. This is not fare... lol I cant figure out what is going on with this thing. Wish I had another build so I could try that one out and see if its just this build that conflicts with my set-up. Thing runs great in safe mode even with networking enabled. shoot I noticed today when I started up in vista it hung for over 30 minutes before it "woke up"
"John S." wrote:
I am using an HP laptop that only has a 64meg video, so the performance rating here is a "1". I am experiencing no slow operation except when the Trend Micro antivirus is installed. Then the machine runs so slow that is takes 20 seconds for the "Start" menu to come up when the start button is clicked. The problem is the antivirus on this machine. The only way I could recover was touse a restore point before the AV was installed. -- If you can read this, thank a teacher. Since you are reading it in English, thank a Soldier.
"PimpTwzt" wrote:
God, this thing takes like 10+ minutes to start up. It hangs constantly. When doing anything it will hang for 5+ minutes before I can do anything again. When it stops hanging I can do maybe one or two things before it will just sit there and do NOTHING. Im talking about, opening up windows or programs. Like Control panel or solitare or even the start menu. No HDD work or processor work. The system clock even freezes up and gets way off. I dont understand. All my devices are working I get a rating of 3. I have a P4 2.8G with HT, 1Gig of DDR2, a XFX Geforce 6600 PCI-e, a Belkin Wireless G card PCI, 2 80Gig HDD's one is a SATA 7200 which has Win XP Pro and the other is a IDE. 5400 I beleive and that has Vista on it. I have tryed updating my graphics driver with the Nvidia one for Vista... No differance. I can connect to the internet but of course can not accomplish anything b/c it hangs constantly. I tryed reinstalling it and NO differance. All updates are installed from Windows Update, That took a half an hour to accomplish b/c it just sits there frozen in the middle of the progress. I have read many of you have Vista up and running smoothly. I dont get it. Why am I so different? I can only imagine it is some device in my system even though everything works. What could it be? Thanx guys. Kinda irritating cuz I cant find out what it is. Oh and I have a TSSTcorp CD-RW and a NEC DVD-RW those both work fine too.

Here is the good news: you have answered your own question. The problem is a driver, or more than one, somewhere. The biggest difference between Safe mode and a normal boot is that Safe mode only loads the drivers it absolutely needs to run at a bare minimum. When you stated, "Thing runs great in safe mode even with networking enabled," it indicates that all is well with Vista, but that a driver in your system is not ready for prime time.
Here is the bad news: fixing this is going to be a bit of a pain. Yank every card, except video, out of the machine that is not integrated and disable any integrated devices other than your network adapter since that seems to be working in Safe mode anyway. Do a clean install of Vista. Without the cards plugged in it won't detect them and won't load the drivers. See if there are any performance issues. If there are problems at this point it is most likely the video driver. If things are running well then start re-enabling on board devices one by one until you have the performance problems again. If that goes well then you need to repeat the process with your PCI cards.
Keep in mind that Microsoft does not actually make the drivers. This includes the ones that install automatically when you install an operating system. The companies that make the hardware devices supply the drivers for inclusion by Microsoft. Since this is a Beta you should report your findings through the desktop Feedback so that appropriate action can be taken.
Good luck and please let us know how it works out.
"PimpTwzt" wrote:

Yes i had to remove the card and it boots up a hell of a lot faster. BUT it still hangs up whenever I open a program or apply a setting. Apparently there is still a problem with a device somewhere if others have it up and running without fault.
I have two Drives, One has XP and the other has Vista. In fact when I run Vista I have the other drive unplugged. Hopefully they come up with a fix for all this asap, cuz I cant do anyting with it right now. It takes away from my normal use of XP so ya im going to just wait for now i guess until they get useful updates or drivers.
"Sean M" wrote:
try disabling your graphics adapter and see what happens, cause im going thru the same problem (vista taking forever to start and running slow on doing anything) couldnt figure out what it was but i disabled my ATI Radeon card and Vista ran perfectly, give it a try and see what yours does.
"PimpTwzt" wrote:
God, this thing takes like 10+ minutes to start up. It hangs constantly. When doing anything it will hang for 5+ minutes before I can do anything again. When it stops hanging I can do maybe one or two things before it will just sit there and do NOTHING. Im talking about, opening up windows or programs. Like Control panel or solitare or even the start menu. No HDD work or processor work. The system clock even freezes up and gets way off. I dont understand. All my devices are working I get a rating of 3. I have a P4 2.8G with HT, 1Gig of DDR2, a XFX Geforce 6600 PCI-e, a Belkin Wireless G card PCI, 2 80Gig HDD's one is a SATA 7200 which has Win XP Pro and the other is a IDE. 5400 I beleive and that has Vista on it. I have tryed updating my graphics driver with the Nvidia one for Vista... No differance. I can connect to the internet but of course can not accomplish anything b/c it hangs constantly. I tryed reinstalling it and NO differance. All updates are installed from Windows Update, That took a half an hour to accomplish b/c it just sits there frozen in the middle of the progress. I have read many of you have Vista up and running smoothly. I dont get it. Why am I so different? I can only imagine it is some device in my system even though everything works. What could it be? Thanx guys. Kinda irritating cuz I cant find out what it is. Oh and I have a TSSTcorp CD-RW and a NEC DVD-RW those both work fine too.